Hornaday Road - Revision history

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‎Hornaday Road entrance at Brownsville Road 2008

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 == By Joe Krynock and John Rudiak ==
-Hornaday Road was named by a Pittsburgh Councilman named [[John M. Phillips]] who was a friend of [[William T. Hornaday]]. In fact, when they were not hunting together, they promoted popular conservation and forestry societies like Boy Scouting along with better zoos. A more detailed description of how the property of [[John Phillips]] came to be can be found at [[Phillips Properties]].
+Hornaday Road was named by a wealthy Carrick businessman who owned Phillips Mine and Manufacturing Company on the South Side, Engineer, Conservationist, and Pittsburgh City Councilman named [[John M. Phillips]] who was a friend of [[William T. Hornaday]]. In fact, when they were not hunting together, they promoted popular conservation and forestry societies like Boy Scouting along with better zoos. A more detailed description of how the property of [[John Phillips]] came to be can be found at [[Phillips Properties]].
 [William T. Hornaday] was a conservationist writer but he was also a taxidermist and the director at the Bronx Zoo. In a book titled “Buck Fever” written by Mike Sajna, now deceased, was about deer hunting and the Pennsylvania Game Commission history. In that book there were the names of [[John M. Phillips]] and [William T. Hornaday].
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 A close examination of the Carrick post card photo of [[John Phillips]] home, (provided by Carol Anthony of the South Pittsburgh Historical Group,) reveals a platform and a telescope pointed skyward at the center of the roof. The driveway is barely noticeable in this photo.
 == The photo below is from the collection of Robert F. Phillips.  More [[Phillips Properties]] photos can be seen by going to that site. ==

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	Also shown on the accompanying plan of lots, William F Seiger owned approximately two acres which was divided into 14 parcels. Ten lots were on the western side of Redrose and four lots were to face Hornaday. Two homes, at 218 and 220 Hornaday were built on lots three and four. The house at 216 was built on lots one and two.		Also shown on the accompanying plan of lots, William F Seiger owned approximately two acres which was divided into 14 parcels. Ten lots were on the western side of Redrose and four lots were to face Hornaday. Two homes, at 218 and 220 Hornaday were built on lots three and four. The house at 216 was built on lots one and two.
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		+	== On January 22, 1934 Coyote Captured at 210 Hornaday Road ==
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		+	== [[John M. Phillips]] identifies species ==
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	Also shown on the accompanying plan of lots, William F Seiger owned approximately two acres which was divided into 14 parcels. Ten lots were on the western side of Redrose and four lots were to face Hornaday. Two homes, at 218 and 220 Hornaday were built on lots three and four. The house at 216 was built on lots one and two.		Also shown on the accompanying plan of lots, William F Seiger owned approximately two acres which was divided into 14 parcels. Ten lots were on the western side of Redrose and four lots were to face Hornaday. Two homes, at 218 and 220 Hornaday were built on lots three and four. The house at 216 was built on lots one and two.
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		+	== Hornaday Road entrance at Brownsville Road 2008 ==
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 == HORNADAY ROAD ==
 == By Joe Krynock and John Rudiak ==
-Hornaday Road was named by a Pittsburgh Councilman named [[John M. Phillips]] who was a friend of [[William T. Hornaday]]. In fact, when they were not hunting together, they promoted popular conservation and forestry societies like Boy Scouting along with better zoos.
+Hornaday Road was named by a Pittsburgh Councilman named [[John M. Phillips]] who was a friend of [[William T. Hornaday]]. In fact, when they were not hunting together, they promoted popular conservation and forestry societies like Boy Scouting along with better zoos. A more detailed description of how the property of [[John Phillips]] came to be can be found at [[Phillips Properties]].
-[William T. Hornaday] was a conservationist writer but he was also a taxidermist and the director at the Bronx Zoo. In a book titled “Buck Fever” written by Mike Sajna, now deceased, was about deer hunting and the Pennsylvania Game Commission history. In that book there were the names of John M. Phillips and William T. Hornaday.
+[William T. Hornaday] was a conservationist writer but he was also a taxidermist and the director at the Bronx Zoo. In a book titled “Buck Fever” written by Mike Sajna, now deceased, was about deer hunting and the Pennsylvania Game Commission history. In that book there were the names of [[John M. Phillips]] and [William T. Hornaday].
 Begining with [http://digital.library.pitt.edu/maps/ Historic Pittsburgh] Project online and among their sources and maps was the survey map dated 1905.
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 [[Image:1905 j.b.murray plan.jpg]]
-Among other details, this map shows that a John Phillips had owned a “piano” shaped piece of land which had his mansion as it faced Southern Avenue, also known as [[Brownsville Road]], The Brownsville Plank Road, or The Brownsville Road. His property was bordered on the northern side by Becks Ave. (the township road) which was was changed by 1916 to Agnew Avenue.
+Among other details, this map shows that a [[John Phillips]] had owned a “piano” shaped piece of land which had his mansion as it faced Southern Avenue, also known as [[Brownsville Road]], The [[Brownsville Plank Road]], or [[The Brownsville Road]]. His property was bordered on the northern side by Becks Ave. (the township road) which was was changed by 1916 to Agnew Avenue.
 [[Image:Mansion close up 1905.jpg]]
 This enlarged section of the 1905 map details how John Phillips’ mansion sat on Lot 3 set back from Brownsville Road or Southern Avenue and was centered where the current Hornaday Road is now. His “Governor’s style” driveway for his horse drawn carriages curved away from his home to meet the streets that we know as East Agnew Avenue and Madeline Street. It is possible that it may have been built about the time of the Civil War around 1863.
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 [[Image:John Phillips Hornaday Homestead-1.jpg]]
-A close examination of the Carrick post card photo of John Phillips home, (provided by Carol Anthony of the South Pittsburgh Historical Group,) reveals a platform and a telescope pointed skyward at the center of the roof. The driveway is barely noticeable in this photo.
+A close examination of the Carrick post card photo of [[John Phillips]] home, (provided by Carol Anthony of the South Pittsburgh Historical Group,) reveals a platform and a telescope pointed skyward at the center of the roof. The driveway is barely noticeable in this photo.
-As the 1905 map shows, that John Phillips mansion and his property extended, east to the Rehman family property from The Southern Ave. So, at one time, before there was a “Hornaday Road” John Phillips owned an area that was eventually divided into lots for eighty homes. His mansion was on the entire flat top area which has been sub-divided since then, into forty lots (39 homes and currently named Zion Church) with those addresses from 95 to 163. This section was only a part of the "Phillips Manor Plan". The original plan included the boundaries of Rehman Street and Murray Street (now Madeline) and Scout avenue.
+As the 1905 map shows, that [[John Phillips]] mansion and his property extended, east to the Rehman family property from The Southern Ave. So, at one time, before there was a “Hornaday Road” [[John Phillips]] owned an area that was eventually divided into lots for eighty homes. His mansion was on the entire flat top area which has been sub-divided since then, into forty lots (39 homes and currently named Zion Church) with those addresses from 95 to 163. This section was only a part of the "Phillips Manor Plan". The original plan included the boundaries of Rehman Street and Murray Street (now Madeline) and Scout avenue.
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 [[Image:2nd Half Phillips Manor Plan 1915 resized.jpg]]
-Those homes are on lots that were laid out in October of 1915, by John M. Phillips. In October of 1926, John M. Phillips, John Phillips’ nephew, once again laid out the Phillips Manor Plan revision, of lots 98 to 118 inclusive, in order to provide an alley way to those homes which he called Revision Way. It is estimated to have about 18 acres in all.
+Those homes are on lots that were laid out in October of 1915, by John M. Phillips. In October of 1926, [[John M. Phillips]], John Phillips’ nephew, once again laid out the Phillips Manor Plan revision, of lots 98 to 118 inclusive, in order to provide an alley way to those homes which he called Revision Way. It is estimated to have about 18 acres in all.
 == This is the plan that created "Revision Way" which was actually a revision to the original "Phillips Manor Plan of Lots" ==

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-== This is my introduction and short history of the origins of The Carrick-Overbrook Historical Society along with my first order of business was to be what I will title '''"The Hornaday Road Report”''' ==
+== The first part of this is my introduction and short history of the origins of The Carrick-Overbrook Historical Society along with my first order of business was to be what I will title '''"The Hornaday Road Report”''' ==
-John Rudiak and I, Joe Krynock, were discussing our street’s historical background at the 2007 Hornaday Road block party. This is an annual neighborhood gathering where neighbors get together.  Recently retired and with time on his hands, John mentioned that he was going to the Recorder of Deeds office to research deed information. Since I also wanted to explore my home’s past and to determine a build date, John and I decided to work together. I had researched deeds before but that seemed a very long time ago. As we talked more during the block party, other neighbors mentioned historic information about their homes, or rumored information of our Hornaday Road neighborhood. Even with these scattered tidbits of information not many knew specific details for sure. Since John had already been living here since 1976 when I moved into Carrick in 1982,  I thought John knew more historic details about Hornaday Road than me.
+John Rudiak and I, Joe Krynock, were discussing our street’s historical background at the 2007 Hornaday Road block party. This annual neighborhood gathering is where neighbors get together.  Recently retired and with time on his hands, John mentioned that he was going to the Recorder of Deeds office to research deed information and since I also wanted to explore my home’s past and to determine a build date, John and I decided to work together. As we talked more during the block party, other neighbors mentioned historic information about their homes and information of our Hornaday Road neighborhood. Even with these scattered tidbits of information not many knew specific details for sure.
-"Not really" he said.
+I told John, who didn't know much eventhough he lived here since 1976, that a Pittsburgh Councilman named Phillips was a friend of William T. Hornaday. In fact, when they were not hunting together, they promoted stuff like Boy Scouting, better zoos and conservation.
-I told him that a Pittsburgh Councilman named Phillips was a friend of William T. Hornaday. In fact; when they were not hunting together, they promoted stuff like Boy Scouting, better zoos and conservation.
+William T. Hornaday was a conservationist writer but he was also a taxidermist and the director at the Bronx, New York zoo. Years ago I bought a bargain priced book titled “Buck Fever” because it written by Mike Sajna, now deceased, an writer that I recognized.  Mike Sajna's book was printed by the University of Pittsburgh Press and it was about deer hunting and the Pennsylvania Game Commission history. In that book there were the names of John M. Phillips and William T. Hornaday.  We talked about that and I stated that I wanted to investigate that small bit of information, someday soon. John noted that I was retired so now was as good a time to start as ever.
-“Our Hornaday,” John asked “Who was he?”
+The next day after our block party I found my copy of “Buck Fever” and re-read pages 68 to 78 to refresh my memory and sure enough the clues to our history where there. Then I then suggested to John that perhaps together we could collaborate on a Hornaday Road history project and we could do a story or report for our neighbors and friends before the next year’s block party in 2008.
-I responded that William T. Hornaday was a conservationist writer but he was also a taxidermist and the director at the Bronx, New York zoo and that I found this out by accident.  Years ago I bought a bargain priced book titled “Buck Fever” because it written by Mike Sajna, now deceased, an writer that I recognized.  Mike Sajna's book was printed by the University of Pittsburgh Press and it was about deer hunting and the Pennsylvania Game Commission history. In that book there were the names of John M. Phillips and William T. Hornaday.  We talked about that and I stated that I wanted to investigate that small bit of information, someday soon. John noted that I was retired so now was as good a time to start as ever.
+Parts of this story are missing, as yet. For example, Why did John MacFarlane Phillips name Hornaday Road after his friend, William T. Hornaday? What happened to His cousin, John Phillips? Did he pass away at an early age?
-The next day after our block party I found my copy of “Buck Fever” and re-read pages 68 to 78 to refresh my memory and sure enough the clues to our history where there. Then I then suggested to John that perhaps together we could collaborate on a Hornaday Road history project and we could do a story or report for our neighbors and friends before the next year’s block party in 2008.
+A short time later we went to the Carrick Library searching for information. Julia Kuchta, librarian, showed us the file cabinets in one corner of the community room. Pleasantly surprised we found that Mr. Joe Spiecker, a local historian along with help from Mrs. Audrey Dawida, sorted and archived local history for close to twenty years.  Joe and Audrey had assembled many binders of information and it was not touched for a long time. In fact, John found a crumpled piece of paper with a Volunteer Fireman’s badge attached.  It was from when Carrick was a borough. We both felt that this item was not just rare but of great historic importance to the community, too important to just be lying in a file drawer easily lost. As we looked at the collection of photos and articles, we found missing and misplaced as to page numbers. John commented that if all this stuff was scanned and digitized it would be easier to protect, store, document and collect. To give you an idea of what we found there were photostatic copies of old photos, some original photos, news articles and papers, loose papers all lying at the bottom of drawer; perhaps they fell out or ransacked or they just were never identified and mounted. Joe Speiker was contacted but he said he lost interest and was in ill health at the time, but asked us to take care of his collection.
-With these few clues we started our search. John and I started at the Recorder of Deeds office downtown and we pulled dozens of dusty Deed books to track our own property records. We spent most of a day there when John found some very interesting information about J. B. Murray's housing plan laid out in December 1859 and made copies for later reference.
+A carpenter by trade computer work is not what I did for a living and I felt that my plan for a short historical letter to the neighbors had suddenly thrust me into much deeper waters than I had intended.  John suggested that instead of making and saving copies of our findings which would have amounted to reams of paper that we digitize it all into a website for anyone to review, not just Hornaday residents, to explore in their own time and leisure. So it was John who took me into this new and uncharted internet territory with the website idea.
-Parts of this story are missing, as yet. For example, Why did John MacFarlane Phillips name Hornaday Road after his friend, William T. Hornaday? What happened to His cousin, John Phillips? Did he pass away at an early age?
+Often and independently, we looked for maps and stuff on internet sites. I found the Historic Pittsburgh Project online and among their sources and maps was the survey map dated 1905.
 [[Image:1859 J.B.jpg]]
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 And then we found this map and its information was related to all of the homes and owners in the area which raised more questions for us.
 [[Image:1905 j.b.murray plan.jpg]]

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 [[Image:Phillips Manor Revision 1926 resized.jpg]]
 This is the Rehman Family plan of lots.
 [[Image:Dedication of Rehman St 1915 resized.jpg]]

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 [[Image:1905 j.b.murray plan.jpg]]
-Among other details,This map shows that a John Phillips had owned a “piano” shaped piece of land which had his mansion as it faced Southern Avenue, also known as Brownsville Road, The Brownsville Plank Road, or The Brownsville Road.
+Among other details, this map shows that a John Phillips had owned a “piano” shaped piece of land which had his mansion as it faced Southern Avenue, also known as Brownsville Road, The Brownsville Plank Road, or The Brownsville Road.
 His property was bordered on the Northern side by Becks Ave./the township road
 this was changed by 1916 to Agnew.
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 [[Image:Phillips Manor Revision 1926 resized.jpg]]